Comments on: Varun And The Ghost Of Sanjay Gandhi

By: M Naqqaad

M Naqqaad — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:10:25 +0000

Dear Mubashshir,
…………So what was Varun Gandhi thinking when he spew venom against Indian Muslims and Mahatma Gandhi, father of the nation? How can a man – who studied in the liberal tradition of London School of Economics and Political Science – be communal? Perhaps he was following in his father’s footsteps whose obsessive preference was to be always in the news. …..
This statement of yours assumes that all what is publicised of the West is true. But, these very institutions produced the people who later colonised the world brutally. Now, the rhetoric of separation of church and the State too has been used to do the same not for the christian church and european/american state but the Muslim church and a Islamic state. In both the cases it was never done but Islam stands to be blamed though the church is hailed for things it did not. There is an official church which controls the christianity even politically. While having all the corrupt practices of the world, the sacrosant ‘character’ of the church is still default.
So to say that Varun Gandhi is educated at a secular institution is in turn saying that there cannot be anything wrong with that institution or the thought of the system applicable there. There are people who apply the standards of life in retrograde like the Meeruth mutineers being ‘wahhabis’ while he does not have anything similar to explain about the church which surprisinly was well established in Dehli well before the stranglehold of Britain could be established. Contrast this with the scenario in your revered west where the permission for establishing a mosque passes through the church (so much so for separating the State and Church). Most of the time lack of Muslim population is sighted as a reason for denial of permission. Many times it is told to be Roman in Rome and to practice the religion in private and the same people ask for establishing a church in Hejaz. Imagine how many christians were there in Dehli before the british and if they were, how. In those medievial times too, Islam was as liberal as it is now, many notches up upon the secularism, why to talk of the church. With the same system prevalent those days, the Sufism, whose carrot us used as stick to beat active Muslims with, was uprooted. Now, to many, how the same system can be of any use when it is proved to be utterly doomed. The system of life people sight to malign Islam (with different versions of it told to exist) was annhiliated, surely, the people will think of practising another system with gurantee against the past failures. While the crusading mentality of the church continues with openly hurting the sentiments of even dormant Hinndus, the stretegy is to use the Hindu thus hurt, to target Muslim and Islam as well. A turban is a no-no for France and Europe but its ‘secular’ politician complains of a genocide of christian with a turbaned Sikh Prime Minister.
No surprises that a Varun is asked to follow the teachings of his ‘alma mater’. He is following the teachings brother Mubashshir but you think the bad needs to be purged off the block just to shield the ‘exalted’ of europe. The early we recognise the extremism of practice of values by the Westerners, better for us to prevent extremisation of our society. Projection of all alien things as good is creating more extremists in the form of Mutaliks and Haji Yaqoob because the ‘lawlessness’; of a ‘Valentinian life’ and ‘expression of freedom’ by the Danish. We cannot wish away the reactions on these things just because same is not allowed to other side. Will people appreciate without calling the people extremists and fundamentalists if others criticise the application of democracy by force? Anthing by the ‘powerful’ cannot be taken as ‘holy words’, if you say yes, then others too must be allowed to pronounce their own ‘holi words’. A non-differential world is the sure receipie for arrest of flow of hate as is the case with matter we call ‘physics’.
If you could not fathom the thoughts here, that is the real problem.

By: satwagunam

satwagunam — Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:41:03 +0000

@Milind Kher

That would be the worst thing to happen. It will push varun gandhi much higher recognition what he was looking for a champion who has laid his life for the hindu cause and against the muslim.

In a simple cricket term all balls need not be answered. Strategically a good player ducks the ball and that does not mean he is not good. best way to handle is to ignore as a stray barking dog, in my perception.

By: Inam Abidi Amrohvi

Inam Abidi Amrohvi — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:49:07 +0000

Good one Mubasshir! Perhaps the frustrations of Maneka and Varun were too much for them to handle. As Kapil Sibbal said on NDTV the poor chap has been caught between the policies of BJP and Mayawati.

By: Milind Kher

Milind Kher — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:14:59 +0000

Varun Gandhi is in serious trouble. The Ulema Council is ready to take him head on.

Already, proceedings are on to book him for attempt to murder. His speech was definitely aimed at provoking a Muslim massacre. His attempt fell flat.

He does not understand that “ekta ka raj chalega. Hindu Muslim saath chalega”.

By: Sayed Wasim

Sayed Wasim — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:21:30 +0000

As Salamu Aliekum…

I second with all Milind Kher, amaanme, M Naqqaad, Shama and Rick…

We need to wake up and educate people around us about communal forces and if this goes on, then the future will be dangerous…

OH, Allah(swt) please protect we Indians from these political and communal forces…Aameen…

By: Rick

Rick — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:21:47 +0000

First of all I think Varun should be barred from contesting elections for life. If the EC cannot do that ( and the party he belongs to doesn’t do it)then the option of going to the court should be explored. It seems Congress is unwilling to do that, maybe just to expose BJP further, but someone has to take some action to prevent Varun from causing further damage.

I agree with Shama that it’s good to have an open discussion. But can these responses be really counted as an opinion poll? Hate mongers are always more active than peacelovers. If we count the opinions on the comments space across various websites ( on this topic) the winner will be Varun Gandhi. But does that reflect the whole society? If it does then it’s very scary…But in my opinion there are a lot of people out there who cringe inwardly at such hateful speeches, but doesn’t feel the need to be vocal against it. This inertia is dangerous…It’s time we all become aware and more active in condemning things of communal nature so that our voices do not get drowned out by the fanatics.

By: Shama

Shama — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:01:20 +0000

I’d rather have such sentiments out in the open, rather than behind closed doors. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Also this way we can see clearly who supports such sentiments. We need more cameras at Varun Gandhis speeches!!!

By: M Naqqaad

M Naqqaad — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:23:20 +0000

Milind$
Avoiding lengthy comments, I agree with you 100% that the last line is the most worrysome indicator of times to come. I am with you & share the apprehensions.

By: amaanme

amaanme — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:06:54 +0000

Varun must all the time remember that Sajay Gandhi was the blue eyed son of a powerful Prime Minister. His(Varun) statement is nothing but to win the hearts of the electorates of his kind.

By: Milind Kher

Milind Kher — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:55:45 +0000

Seeing Varun Gandhi in prison can only be wishful thinking.

When the din dies down, all will be forgotten, and there will be a wave of sympathy amongst the saffron elements for an “innocent person” being maligned by “pseudo secularists”.

Praise of Modi, dismissal of Varun Gandhi’s statements as “rhetoric” and other such things are indications of a society getting rapidly communalized.

This will hurt India in the long run, but does anybody care?