In one of the other threads for babu bajrangi on this web site I had said that the very perception that Gujaratis did the riots is wrong.

You are probably going to do the same mistake that the rioteers did after the Godhra incident. I believe the human ire should be against a non forgiving attitude. This is the very hallmark of Indian culture. (Rather eastern culture). The very seeds of anger inside a human being is because we can not forgive an event, a person or a situation.

If your eyes got opened and you stopped thinking you are an Indian because of the riots then its your wish and it should be welcomed as well.

I hear the same eyes opening from many people who always remind me about the mad jubilation of Muslims that happened after the Godhra train burning . News of Pakistani flags or of sweets being distributed or people being taunted about that incident is also fresh in those peoples mind. But they are also wrong because they do not realise that there is a whole section of Gujarati Muslims who were neither part of that incident and neither parcel of the jubilations that took place thereafter.The people who were burning the train or distributing sweets later were not educated and were under the wrong impression of their deeds with sanction in religion.

The people who became mad in revenge were not gujaratis middle class or educated elite but hired goondas and uneducated or unemployed youths again.

But I am sad that politics is being played time and again over that incident. Neither people who perperated Godhra or Gujarat riots will be punished. While one incident is being underplayed or being hushed up to stoke anger of one community the other incidence is being used as some sort of nationalism to stoke anger for the other community. Least to say our media who will never realise that their work is not of pronouncing judgement but that of bringing complete facts.

Gujarat should have stood the gandhian way. After 6 years of that incidence people should realise that bravery is not in a culture of revenge but in a culture of forgiveness. And I ask you to think in those terms as well. Neither the people who were burned in the train were any evil and neither who became victim later. They were all innocents.

Religion is a completely personal matter but basic common sense for a healthy life is to be happy. With so much anger inside you yaseen (and the anger is not only for Gujarat but over the mongols and against tartars who are long gone and for Iraq and palestine) you will always hate anyone who is happy as well. Do not carry this heavy baggage because sometimes we do not know what we should know.

As to the author of this article or to the blog owners I will like to tell is that Gujurati Muslims are living amicably in Gujurat and probably the very notion that Gujurat was completely upside down in 2002 is also wrong. Gujurati Muslims were the ultimate sufferers in many areas like naroda patia but these incidents do not find support in Gujurati society as well. As for the guilty law will take its course but even if it fails I believe there is a bigger court where no guilty ever escapes.

Having one law for all people, even if implemented, does not guarentee security from oppression/violence. That comes only when that law is ‘enforced’ impartially.

What India/Indians need is a method/implementation to ‘enforce’ laws effectively, efficiently and impartially. How can they do it?

The grief of all victims are the same. The tragedy in our country is the wheels of justice run slow but you just need to peek across the border to see what is happening to a country next door – a country that professes Islamic way. Democracy is about stressing on individual liberty and learning from ones mistakes. It does not assume a document that is infallible to run civic life. Spirituality is different. Thats why in India state and religion is seperate. By distancing yourself from mainstream India you are further harming your future and doing exactly what these criminals wanted to do – to further distance you from rest of the Indians and set you apart. And just one thing more – how can an NCO or a Havaldar dissuade you from following your true destiny?

I can understand the tragedy that you have been through and while I cannot apologize for the actions for others, believe me such freaks would find me also “wanting” in some other category. I work in the US and at times I feel I have felt prejudice because I was coming from a poor country. But well, thats life. We carry on. I believe that I can only work against the prejudices if I can make my country stronger. If it were for me, I would have had fast track courts where each and every riot victims gets his justice. Even Modi claims that justice delayed is justice denied. After facing a bad deal at NCC did you try to sit for competitive exams like NDA or the IMA. I wonder which Lance Naik could call a muslim a fool when the president of a country is a muslim.

Babri Masjid was torn down by Hindu fanatics..a grim tragedy indeed for a secular nation, but remember their “slogan” was not too different from what you are using now. They also follow their version of religious pride and want to protect their mothers, daughters, sisters – from the Islamic invaders that they felt controlled India and repeated the activities of Gujrat for over 700 years. They feel that muslims have got their country in Pakistan so why do they stay in India? They were supported by many sections who felt that they displayed the “macho” hindu who would no longer accept to see a numerical minority rule over them. Post Babri Masjid, many temples were razed to the ground in Pakistan and Bangladesh. What do you say about refugees from there reaching India?

If you find solace in religion – so be it. But in addition to that, have you tried to have faith in your motherland and prove yourself a worthy son inspite of all the prejudices? How about rallying people in the name of justice instead of God? I call my God by a different name but justice is the same for everyone.

home, killing my family members. And if myself and my family are persecuted only because we believe in Islam, then in such cases My Religion

commands me to fight in the name of Allah against those who fight against me. So that being said, i would not like rally people to fight

non-muslims, but if people try to kill muslims, then yes i would like to rally them in the name of Allah.

Referring to Sudies quotes line by line:
“Does it imply, as per you, that a muslim fights back only as his religious identity and not as a Bengali, Tamil, Malayali or an Indian? Do you mean

to say that I believe that a majority of Indian “muslims” base their identity as Indians and treat religion as a matter of personal choice.”
Let me clarify i don’t claim to be a leader of Indian muslims speaking on their behalf and i simply don’t know whether muslims from india base

their identity as Indians first or not. I only speak on my behalf. And about myself, for me my religion of Islam and the safety, security of my family is

important for me. Let me also tell you that being a muslim, I should only pray to Allah and seek guidance for my decisions only based on Holy

Quran. Quraan has infact helped me control my temper when i saw my family being burnt alive in Gujrat, if alone i did not have the Holy Quraan

with me, you would have sure hated me much more.

And to muslims i would say one of the reason why we still face insecurity in this country is that we always seek help from others but not rom Allah,

for example Gujrati Muslims faced their worse nightmare’s at the hands of a BJP led government and now most of them are looking for help from

Congress. I would say that BJP and Congress are the two sides of the same coin, BJP wants votes by initiating genocide pogroms and

Congress wants votes by acting as a messiah for the victims of BJP.

Instead muslims should seek help from Allah for these trials and tribulations. Stuff such as Gujrat is not new to muslims. Muslims have lived with

worse stuff than Gujarat at the hands of Mongols, Tatars and crusaders in the past, now at the hands of US, Israeli, Modi’s gang and other Muslim

dictators.

And for Sudies another quote:
” In the modern times, people are judged by their actions and not by their “religious identity” on display.”
I believe that if i am a true muslim my actions would be good causing no harm or discomfort to non-muslims, so i am sure if all Indian Muslims are

True Muslims then we would be called good. But on the contrary i can cite examples where muslims had been good and non-muslims have

attacked and caused harm to peace loving muslims. Like for example, Iraq had no WMD’s and so why are the ordinary Iraqi people killed today?

Palestanians were living in Palestine for centuries now why have Israelis occupied Palestine lands and made them refugees? What wrong a did

a 8 month pregnant muslim lady do in Gujrat, Why was she killed, her womb torn and her foetus thrown in fire? Why were gujrati women raped

and burnt? Sudie if you want proof, let me know i will give you all the proof for this.

And Sudie said:
“Today, its much more difficult to twist facts, and rallying people on the basis of religion alone is foolish but dangerous thing for all involved.”
Well i disagree with this statement, if alone it was not easy to rally people on the basis of religion, why did the Gujrat genocide happen? why was

Babri mosque torn down?

And answering your another quote: “Understand the true essence of your religion when it stresses on humanity and values.”
As i wrote before, if i had not read Quraan my temper and actions would not have been controllable. And you would have for sure hated me more.

And for sudie’s quote: “Does it not matter to you when people of other religions/communities are killed? ”
Yes, it does matter to me if innocent people are killed, for that matter i was also aghast at the fact of Godhra Train burning where “kar sevaks”

and other people were killed. I am upset at the gruesome murder of “Kar Sevaks and others” because these kar sevaks don’t seem to have killed

or caused physical harm to others. So killing these people according to me was killing innocent people. And again my prophet muhammad (may

peace be upon him) has commanded muslims “if you kill a innocent person, then it is as if you have killed a whole humanity”. If alone there was a

true islamic rule here, then these perpetrators of Godhra Train carnage would have been executed.

And for your last quote: “Can you take decisions based on common sense and fundamental human values and not seek self serving answers only

in religion?”
Let me clarify the answers that i find from Quraan and the life of Prophet Muhammad (may peace be upon him) are not self serving only to

muslims. As indicated above, by the Shariah laws of Quraan, we could effectively find justice for the killing of kar sevaks. So still do you think? My

answers are self serving???

Before Signing off let me tell you, when i was in my teens (till i was 20) i loved this country as no one would have, (for proving this check my aticle i

wrote when i was 16 yrs old, http://manaskriti.com/InteractInn/21119901.html) But thanks to great so called “progressive”leaders like Modi,

Vajpayee, Advani and no doubt even the so called secular political parties, they opened my eyes. They and also the people who elected them

have proved to me that being a patriot does not save my family from being killed. I have understood well that only collective unity amongst

muslims and strong faith in Allah can alone save them and their families.

Let me tell you an another eye opener incident, I wanted to be a Army officer so i joined NCC. I was well motivated and never missed out a single

parade or a class. But until an Army NCO Lance Naik Nair from Signals at the CATC NCC Camp told me: “You muslims have no brains” and

carried out his tirade forward. He was not the only Army guy, there was also another Havildar Thampi from Infantary who also personally told

similar stuff to me. Now having met similar fate in other walks of life, i have realized that being patriot and trying to sacrifice your life for the country

does not make me a equal citizen. Whatever i am today, i am because firstly i followed the guidance of Allah throught his quraan and because i

worked hard for it.

Now all my opinions here are only my personal, and i don’t want to or will not advocate violence against innocent people…

And also i am well aware that i cannot change the opinions of people and neither do i want to. So Sudie, what ever you believe in, i don’t have a

problem doing so, and i would expect the same from you.
Thanks