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		<title>By: imtiyaz</title>
		<link>http://indianmuslims.in/indian-muslim-community-discourses-continuities-changes-and-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-46191</link>
		<dc:creator>imtiyaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>assaalm alaikum

i thk evry muslim need to be a education. Here in india no any muslim help to muslim why? coz of education. they know only stop u r oppeennets but the oppenents is also muslim what is this. i think when this mentality change then only we do good job. no any corpoaration no any committi help poor muslim why? i think every rich muslim can they donate any mosque, can they donate any school, no why?</description>
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<p>i thk evry muslim need to be a education. Here in india no any muslim help to muslim why? coz of education. they know only stop u r oppeennets but the oppenents is also muslim what is this. i think when this mentality change then only we do good job. no any corpoaration no any committi help poor muslim why? i think every rich muslim can they donate any mosque, can they donate any school, no why?</p>
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		<title>By: kalam</title>
		<link>http://indianmuslims.in/indian-muslim-community-discourses-continuities-changes-and-challenges/comment-page-1/#comment-45766</link>
		<dc:creator>kalam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well studied article is this indeed.

But I want to say, please wipe out from  your memory that muslim are devided on the base of cast and Ashraf or Arzal... Islam never allows this concept because Islam promots the unity and equality. I accept here till some time back when a particular group of Muslim came into existence on the name of cast and community and promoted wrong believes about Islam with the help me Barhaman group ( Congress Govt ), started fading away and lost its glory in the eye of Muslim.. Now all over India, Muslim have started feeling that they have been made fool in the name of Islam by a feudo Olemas..There is only illetrecy which will  be over come sooner than letter..

Here I request all the reader of this very intresting site that they should take one step forward to promot an all India Muslim political parties, othere wise  there is no solution for the problems of Muslim. Only politics can solve our problem. Might this suggestion looks odd for many peoples, but it will give all you need. Why Hindu boasting everywhere that India is theirs because their representatives are doing according their plan and in which part Muslim has some political claout like South India, they are getting due attention and safeguarding their rights and respect...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well studied article is this indeed.</p>
<p>But I want to say, please wipe out from  your memory that muslim are devided on the base of cast and Ashraf or Arzal&#8230; Islam never allows this concept because Islam promots the unity and equality. I accept here till some time back when a particular group of Muslim came into existence on the name of cast and community and promoted wrong believes about Islam with the help me Barhaman group ( Congress Govt ), started fading away and lost its glory in the eye of Muslim.. Now all over India, Muslim have started feeling that they have been made fool in the name of Islam by a feudo Olemas..There is only illetrecy which will  be over come sooner than letter..</p>
<p>Here I request all the reader of this very intresting site that they should take one step forward to promot an all India Muslim political parties, othere wise  there is no solution for the problems of Muslim. Only politics can solve our problem. Might this suggestion looks odd for many peoples, but it will give all you need. Why Hindu boasting everywhere that India is theirs because their representatives are doing according their plan and in which part Muslim has some political claout like South India, they are getting due attention and safeguarding their rights and respect&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alakh Bhatnagar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alakh Bhatnagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Financial services firm Reliance Money has tied up with Parsoli Corp to offer portfolio management services complying with Shariah laws. 

Reliance Money and Parsoli will now jointly offer financial products in compliance with Muslim religious sentiments and encourage Muslim brothers to make investments in Indian markets.

For further details please feel free to contact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Financial services firm Reliance Money has tied up with Parsoli Corp to offer portfolio management services complying with Shariah laws. </p>
<p>Reliance Money and Parsoli will now jointly offer financial products in compliance with Muslim religious sentiments and encourage Muslim brothers to make investments in Indian markets.</p>
<p>For further details please feel free to contact.</p>
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		<title>By: Girish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Girish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>abdullah,

Could you please enlighten us about what these &quot;Judeo-Christio-Hindu&quot; wishes were/are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abdullah,</p>
<p>Could you please enlighten us about what these &#8220;Judeo-Christio-Hindu&#8221; wishes were/are?</p>
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		<title>By: ruhiansari</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruhiansari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now in todays contemprory india those muslims who r really well educated should come forward.and say yes im going to giv my precious tim n ilm to change d life of some muslims who r aroud me and to whom ican easily acceess.he or she should have a pure feeling of help n lov towards what ever he does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now in todays contemprory india those muslims who r really well educated should come forward.and say yes im going to giv my precious tim n ilm to change d life of some muslims who r aroud me and to whom ican easily acceess.he or she should have a pure feeling of help n lov towards what ever he does.</p>
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		<title>By: 'Abdullah</title>
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		<dc:creator>'Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The basic problem of Indian Muslims started from the Westen concepts of nationalism and so on. After the Khilafat Movemnt 1921, the British Government nurtured the Hindu fundamentalist elements and RSS came into being in 1925. Lala Lajpat Rai proposed the partition for the Muslim problems and wrote to CR Das at length the reasons why India should be partitioned on the communal groiunds. Unfortunately some of the Muslim leaders including the famous secularist M A Jinnah became instrumental to the British/ Churchillian Plan and the British India was divided as per the Judeo-christio-Hindu wishes and Muslim problems multiplied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The basic problem of Indian Muslims started from the Westen concepts of nationalism and so on. After the Khilafat Movemnt 1921, the British Government nurtured the Hindu fundamentalist elements and RSS came into being in 1925. Lala Lajpat Rai proposed the partition for the Muslim problems and wrote to CR Das at length the reasons why India should be partitioned on the communal groiunds. Unfortunately some of the Muslim leaders including the famous secularist M A Jinnah became instrumental to the British/ Churchillian Plan and the British India was divided as per the Judeo-christio-Hindu wishes and Muslim problems multiplied.</p>
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		<title>By: Hindu-Muslim mythology from Aryavarta at Blogbharti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hindu-Muslim mythology from Aryavarta at Blogbharti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (and not observe them from a liberal distance), hold them upto the light and actually study them. Yoginder Sikand observes: A general and widely-held assumption is that India is a largely ‘Hindu’ country, that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (and not observe them from a liberal distance), hold them upto the light and actually study them. Yoginder Sikand observes: A general and widely-held assumption is that India is a largely ‘Hindu’ country, that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bibek Chatterjee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bibek Chatterjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 06:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A much maligned but IMHO a great thinker pointed out in his book that people have multiple identities, and can reconcile between their identities. 

Just because Indians come in a all shapes, sizes, colors and ideological motivations does not mean there is no Indian identity, ditto for Hindus and Muslims. 

Both the Hindu identity and the Muslim identities are real identities.

If a person answers yes to the question : Are you a Hindu/Muslim? The person is a Hindu/Muslim. Identities which have evolved over thousands of years might not be defined in a few words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A much maligned but IMHO a great thinker pointed out in his book that people have multiple identities, and can reconcile between their identities. </p>
<p>Just because Indians come in a all shapes, sizes, colors and ideological motivations does not mean there is no Indian identity, ditto for Hindus and Muslims. </p>
<p>Both the Hindu identity and the Muslim identities are real identities.</p>
<p>If a person answers yes to the question : Are you a Hindu/Muslim? The person is a Hindu/Muslim. Identities which have evolved over thousands of years might not be defined in a few words.</p>
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		<title>By: Sudie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sudie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well researched article. However I would like to highight that every religion when examined would have multiple streams. There is an effort many time to indicate the so called &quot;Dalits&quot; as being outside the Hindu religion. While this may achieve some political objective we need to understand that our &quot;zero-sum&quot; games do not lead us anywhere.

I particularly liked the reasoning behind clothing every single demand from the muslim community in &quot;religious terms&quot;. While this notion helps the parties to arrive at quick gains based on short term gimmicks, how come these get played out time and again. Would not the  government want to change this status quo by investing more in &quot;secular education&quot; within muslim communities. I fail to understand why the leaders within the muslim community do not set up minority funded schools like the catholic schools that do not teach the religions books but follow a modern system of education. Wwe have an AMU but why not more middle and primary schools? Its a fact that the government just cannot deliver. But if the private sector delivers we can go a long way.

I don&#039;t think the Hindutva parties can exist as a force without the muslim extremists. Hindutva by its lumpen base would find even lesser acceptance as India modernizes. But as a reaction to &quot;terrorism&quot; it has an opportunity to build itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well researched article. However I would like to highight that every religion when examined would have multiple streams. There is an effort many time to indicate the so called &#8220;Dalits&#8221; as being outside the Hindu religion. While this may achieve some political objective we need to understand that our &#8220;zero-sum&#8221; games do not lead us anywhere.</p>
<p>I particularly liked the reasoning behind clothing every single demand from the muslim community in &#8220;religious terms&#8221;. While this notion helps the parties to arrive at quick gains based on short term gimmicks, how come these get played out time and again. Would not the  government want to change this status quo by investing more in &#8220;secular education&#8221; within muslim communities. I fail to understand why the leaders within the muslim community do not set up minority funded schools like the catholic schools that do not teach the religions books but follow a modern system of education. Wwe have an AMU but why not more middle and primary schools? Its a fact that the government just cannot deliver. But if the private sector delivers we can go a long way.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the Hindutva parties can exist as a force without the muslim extremists. Hindutva by its lumpen base would find even lesser acceptance as India modernizes. But as a reaction to &#8220;terrorism&#8221; it has an opportunity to build itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Faraaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faraaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sikand : the Indian Muslim minority community is not actually a single community as such in the true sense of the term. Indian Muslims are divided into numerous sects.

Faraaz: True, but there surely exists the &quot;strong we-feeling that defines a community&quot;
Its a community allright. If one chooses to divide the whole into parts that make sense, well that can be done on any &#039;Whole&#039;


Sikand: At the theological level, the various groups cannot be said to represent a single category. 
At the social level...a number of endogamous caste-like groups, and are not a single unit. 

Faraaz: True again. But again you would never find a 160 million strong community as a single &#039;unit&#039; or fitting into a &#039;single category&#039;
Its absurd to think so. 

One, Anyone who testifies to the unity of God and the prophethood of his messenger is muslim.
Two, Anyone who has beliefs beyond those fits into various categories within that community. Simple!

That Hinduism cant lay claim to a defining statement (like the first) has been well brought out in the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sikand : the Indian Muslim minority community is not actually a single community as such in the true sense of the term. Indian Muslims are divided into numerous sects.</p>
<p>Faraaz: True, but there surely exists the &#8220;strong we-feeling that defines a community&#8221;<br />
Its a community allright. If one chooses to divide the whole into parts that make sense, well that can be done on any &#8216;Whole&#8217;</p>
<p>Sikand: At the theological level, the various groups cannot be said to represent a single category.<br />
At the social level&#8230;a number of endogamous caste-like groups, and are not a single unit. </p>
<p>Faraaz: True again. But again you would never find a 160 million strong community as a single &#8216;unit&#8217; or fitting into a &#8217;single category&#8217;<br />
Its absurd to think so. </p>
<p>One, Anyone who testifies to the unity of God and the prophethood of his messenger is muslim.<br />
Two, Anyone who has beliefs beyond those fits into various categories within that community. Simple!</p>
<p>That Hinduism cant lay claim to a defining statement (like the first) has been well brought out in the article.</p>
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