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		<title>By: Sudie</title>
		<link>http://indianmuslims.in/haj-subsidy-anyone/comment-page-3/#comment-55381</link>
		<dc:creator>Sudie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Amarnath issue was a mistimed one and played into the hands of the politicians who exploited the situation to get votes. Unfortunately it did not work.
Personally I feel if an ecologiocal point of view is taken, the trip should be controlled and infrastructure facilities provided should have utilized local manpower to generate employment. Anything managed by a trust in India is very dubious. Instead a more open system that would have helped the local economy would have helped. An average person will always jump onto the streets - the stakes are too low - and everyone wants to vent. The leadership in such situations should have the wisdom to either do something that helps the people or like they did in this case - exploited the situation on communal grounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Amarnath issue was a mistimed one and played into the hands of the politicians who exploited the situation to get votes. Unfortunately it did not work.<br />
Personally I feel if an ecologiocal point of view is taken, the trip should be controlled and infrastructure facilities provided should have utilized local manpower to generate employment. Anything managed by a trust in India is very dubious. Instead a more open system that would have helped the local economy would have helped. An average person will always jump onto the streets &#8211; the stakes are too low &#8211; and everyone wants to vent. The leadership in such situations should have the wisdom to either do something that helps the people or like they did in this case &#8211; exploited the situation on communal grounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Ram</title>
		<link>http://indianmuslims.in/haj-subsidy-anyone/comment-page-3/#comment-55374</link>
		<dc:creator>Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Governament Airlines Overpriced?
In my experience whatever the destination, they are cheaper and ofcourse as a result provide bad customer service. 
2. Why always justify things by bringing Sanghparivar and their standards. The concerns of a common Hindu need to addressed, If common man is convinced, sangh Parivar will disappear.
3. As common Hindu , I do believe, Haj subsidy is a wasteful and inefficient use of Taxes coming from common pool. How is that addressed. Hindu temples are taxed but minority religious institutions are left. 
4. This same money could have been used for improving Education among poor. I don&#039;t care whether the amount is billions of dollars or just a few thousands. It is matter of principles and secularism.

5. During months of June to september many American Indians travel by AirIndia from USA to India. All airlines value this business and prices do comedown but by how much? Not a lot. 

The issue is not How much. that is secondary. Why at all? is the primary question of common Hindu. Common Hindu also believes, if this belief that Haj subsidy is a myth is not simply a belief among the muslim elite,who can afford it, They very well could have managed to change things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Governament Airlines Overpriced?<br />
In my experience whatever the destination, they are cheaper and ofcourse as a result provide bad customer service.<br />
2. Why always justify things by bringing Sanghparivar and their standards. The concerns of a common Hindu need to addressed, If common man is convinced, sangh Parivar will disappear.<br />
3. As common Hindu , I do believe, Haj subsidy is a wasteful and inefficient use of Taxes coming from common pool. How is that addressed. Hindu temples are taxed but minority religious institutions are left.<br />
4. This same money could have been used for improving Education among poor. I don&#8217;t care whether the amount is billions of dollars or just a few thousands. It is matter of principles and secularism.</p>
<p>5. During months of June to september many American Indians travel by AirIndia from USA to India. All airlines value this business and prices do comedown but by how much? Not a lot. </p>
<p>The issue is not How much. that is secondary. Why at all? is the primary question of common Hindu. Common Hindu also believes, if this belief that Haj subsidy is a myth is not simply a belief among the muslim elite,who can afford it, They very well could have managed to change things.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimmy</title>
		<link>http://indianmuslims.in/haj-subsidy-anyone/comment-page-3/#comment-55360</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very unfortunate and sad that there was a huge outcry over Amarnath land..They deserve the facilities and it was unfair that this was even a matter of discussion..And moreover,that move would have helped to bring J&amp;K  more closer to India ..**sigh** We have lot of politicians who are waiting for a mole to make a hill out of it,and we have a greater mass who are dumb and jump into streets before looking whatz behind and whatz after it... In fact,the central government alone was responsible for all the incidents and killings that happened then..

Just my random thoughts..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very unfortunate and sad that there was a huge outcry over Amarnath land..They deserve the facilities and it was unfair that this was even a matter of discussion..And moreover,that move would have helped to bring J&amp;K  more closer to India ..**sigh** We have lot of politicians who are waiting for a mole to make a hill out of it,and we have a greater mass who are dumb and jump into streets before looking whatz behind and whatz after it&#8230; In fact,the central government alone was responsible for all the incidents and killings that happened then..</p>
<p>Just my random thoughts..</p>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
		<link>http://indianmuslims.in/haj-subsidy-anyone/comment-page-3/#comment-55295</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Author is deliberately trying to make the Haj subsidy look small. Tha layout of the article suggests that the subsidy is peanuts and hence should be increased even though the actual words say it should be rejected. DO NOTE that it should be rejected ONLY as it is &quot;miniscule&quot;, otherwise the author who is a enlightened representative of the muslims agrees to it. I know this article is old, but the current wikipedia entry pegs the haj subsidy expense of 2008 as a whopping 700 crores. Also, the author&#039;s calculation of the end benefit to muslims is flawed. Its convenient to miscalculate when it supports your theory. As per wiki entry &quot;Since 1994 the round trip cost to Jeddah has been fixed at Rs. 12,000 per pilgrim, and the rest of the bill is footed by the government. In 2007, this difference came to Rs. 47,454 per passenger&quot;.Isn&#039;t that a BIG subsidy?

And what do the majority get? Does anyone remember how the same subsidy getters protested when the government decided to give some land to provide temporary shelter to Amarnath Yatris?

This can happen only in India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Author is deliberately trying to make the Haj subsidy look small. Tha layout of the article suggests that the subsidy is peanuts and hence should be increased even though the actual words say it should be rejected. DO NOTE that it should be rejected ONLY as it is &#8220;miniscule&#8221;, otherwise the author who is a enlightened representative of the muslims agrees to it. I know this article is old, but the current wikipedia entry pegs the haj subsidy expense of 2008 as a whopping 700 crores. Also, the author&#8217;s calculation of the end benefit to muslims is flawed. Its convenient to miscalculate when it supports your theory. As per wiki entry &#8220;Since 1994 the round trip cost to Jeddah has been fixed at Rs. 12,000 per pilgrim, and the rest of the bill is footed by the government. In 2007, this difference came to Rs. 47,454 per passenger&#8221;.Isn&#8217;t that a BIG subsidy?</p>
<p>And what do the majority get? Does anyone remember how the same subsidy getters protested when the government decided to give some land to provide temporary shelter to Amarnath Yatris?</p>
<p>This can happen only in India.</p>
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		<title>By: tajikistan.neweurasia.net &#187; Dushanbe: Emotional Return For Haj Pilgrims</title>
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		<dc:creator>tajikistan.neweurasia.net &#187; Dushanbe: Emotional Return For Haj Pilgrims</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mohib Ahmad writes about a “Haj Subsidy”, where the Indian government provides monetary support for haj pilgrims. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: abu abdul rahman</title>
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		<dc:creator>abu abdul rahman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are State and Central Government are allocating budget for Haj Subsidy ! not at all !
Than how the funds are generating to spend on subsidy ?

Air India and Indian Airlines are receiving discounts from gulf airport to operate haj flights, part of the discounts are returning to hajis that is called Haj subsidy !

It is the time to change the so-called name haj-subsidy !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are State and Central Government are allocating budget for Haj Subsidy ! not at all !<br />
Than how the funds are generating to spend on subsidy ?</p>
<p>Air India and Indian Airlines are receiving discounts from gulf airport to operate haj flights, part of the discounts are returning to hajis that is called Haj subsidy !</p>
<p>It is the time to change the so-called name haj-subsidy !</p>
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		<title>By: Nimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have written a post on Hajj subsidy..I&#039;ld like you all to read and share thoughts on it..

http://nimis540.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/why-does-government-push-hajj-subsidy-down-the-throats-of-indian-muslims/

Thanks..good day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have written a post on Hajj subsidy..I&#8217;ld like you all to read and share thoughts on it..</p>
<p><a href="http://nimis540.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/why-does-government-push-hajj-subsidy-down-the-throats-of-indian-muslims/" rel="nofollow">http://nimis540.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/why-does-government-push-hajj-subsidy-down-the-throats-of-indian-muslims/</a></p>
<p>Thanks..good day</p>
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		<title>By: Why does Government push Hajj subsidy down the throats of Indian muslims? &#171; Nimmy&#8217;s Experiment with Blogging</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why does Government push Hajj subsidy down the throats of Indian muslims? &#171; Nimmy&#8217;s Experiment with Blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Milind Kher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milind Kher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haj subsidy is a big sham. It does not help the Muslims as much as it gives the Hindutvavadis a stick to beat the Muslims with. 

Muslim appeasement is actually a big myth. It only panders to the orthodoxy and has done nothing to improve the educational level of the Muslims, or even economic growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haj subsidy is a big sham. It does not help the Muslims as much as it gives the Hindutvavadis a stick to beat the Muslims with. </p>
<p>Muslim appeasement is actually a big myth. It only panders to the orthodoxy and has done nothing to improve the educational level of the Muslims, or even economic growth.</p>
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		<title>By: marx</title>
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		<dc:creator>marx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abu,

I think we should stop forming committees in India. What i one man committee headed by a retired supreme court Judge can do? Have any of the committees formed in India, after our Independence has done a proper job? has any of these committee&#039;s report has been publicly discussed and properly implemented? These committees are just eye wash for the public.

Common we are not in a developed economy where every one pays proper taxes. We are a third world developing country, where Hindus,Muslims or Christians exists in same conditions. Lets count how many Hindus or Muslims live in slums with out proper sanitation, health care and education. They will out number the total population of Muslims in India. Why some one should be given preference on Religious or caste basis?

We should understand that the real help should go to the poor, ones who deserves it, let it be Muslim, Hindu or Christian. Lets create a spirit of competitiveness, which will create quality.

First you are an Indian then comes the religion. Your love to Saudi is just based on Religious feeling. Please live in Saudi, you can feel the real situation and you will be clearly treated only as an INDIAN MUSLIM and not as their own.

Even a secular Muslim country like Iraq or Lebanon calls you as ALIBABA.

So please don&#039;t voice for Saudi, who makes a back door align with US and Israel at same time breeds fundamentalists to kill innocent people.

Its pity to see that Religion is playing a bigger role than Patriotism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abu,</p>
<p>I think we should stop forming committees in India. What i one man committee headed by a retired supreme court Judge can do? Have any of the committees formed in India, after our Independence has done a proper job? has any of these committee&#8217;s report has been publicly discussed and properly implemented? These committees are just eye wash for the public.</p>
<p>Common we are not in a developed economy where every one pays proper taxes. We are a third world developing country, where Hindus,Muslims or Christians exists in same conditions. Lets count how many Hindus or Muslims live in slums with out proper sanitation, health care and education. They will out number the total population of Muslims in India. Why some one should be given preference on Religious or caste basis?</p>
<p>We should understand that the real help should go to the poor, ones who deserves it, let it be Muslim, Hindu or Christian. Lets create a spirit of competitiveness, which will create quality.</p>
<p>First you are an Indian then comes the religion. Your love to Saudi is just based on Religious feeling. Please live in Saudi, you can feel the real situation and you will be clearly treated only as an INDIAN MUSLIM and not as their own.</p>
<p>Even a secular Muslim country like Iraq or Lebanon calls you as ALIBABA.</p>
<p>So please don&#8217;t voice for Saudi, who makes a back door align with US and Israel at same time breeds fundamentalists to kill innocent people.</p>
<p>Its pity to see that Religion is playing a bigger role than Patriotism.</p>
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